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- on this episode casey stops by. again. (hip hop music) you ask questions. and i answer them. this is the #askgaryvee show. - you know i think it waslike 122 or something. we had the same count on your show

and on my show the same day. - are you serious? - yeah, it was like the moonsaligned for a minute, gary. (laughs) - did videos explode? - yeah, i mean... - case, tell the vayner nation for the one or two peoplethat don't know who you are. this is a first time,

second time guest appearance. and we've only had like three guests ever. so clearly, i like you a lot, case. - thanks, man. i mean, it's great to be here. who am i? i make videos. i have a technology company. and i'm a huge admirer of you, gary. and this wonderful showthat you've been putting

out there for all of us viewers. - i appreciate it. so, i think we'll just get right into it. i think we had a lotof questions yesterday. kinda tweeted out that you'd be here and people got excited. you have a new startup. which we'll give some time, i'd like you to talk about it for a few minutes.

- great. - but india. that's why i went on the left side. - i know. (laughs) - let's... get into... the show. (laughs) not bad, you are getting better. i'm gonna have to find some new ticks

to throw you off. india let's get into it. - [voiceover] lucy asks, "at the age of 18, what's thebest way to approach a company "and ask for work experience?" - wait--- ask for an internship? - you ask for work?don't you just ask for work? - [india] i guess because a lot people come to companies and it says like

you need this many years of experience. - oh, i see.- [gary] i see. - [india] but how doyou get that experience if nobody wants to hireyou because everybody-- - when you're 18. - [india] yeah. - i got an answer to this, i mean i think that we now live in a world-- casey, how many people,

how many people hit youup on twitter, email, other platforms, comments and youtube, you must have a gadrillion. how many times have you in your career-- when would you say thatyou started really building into a place where peoplewere really pinging you? is this now a two, three,four year phenomenon for you? - for work? - yes.

not for work, more likepeople that are fans of you, clearly at this point. - it's been a long time. - how long, do you think? - i mean, i think since thefirst video i made went viral over 10 years ago. - got it. so, it's been prettyconsistent since then? - yeah.- good, how many times have yourandomly done stuff?

yes, met someone, got on a phone. how many times? - now, if i could count that, gary. more than i could ever keep track of. - that's your answer. who was the question?- [india] lucy. - lucy that's your answer. i also-- the majority of this entire team

is based on random shit. like so, i think you just askas many times as possible. there are unlimited companiesin a world you can get to almost anybody because of twitter, again, a true social network. more so than comments on content which a lot of other platforms are. email, at this point, ithink has been played out. it's harder to get topeople through email.

but that will still work too. i think it's stunning that you can get to most people in the world today. i don't think people, as many people are as wired as you and i. i think people have drawn the line to no but there's plenty. we're not the only two nice guys believing in serendipity.

there are tens of thousandswildly accomplished ceos, co-founders, thatwill absolutely hire you on spec from onerequest to get experience whether they give you an internship or pay you minimum wageor even give you a salary. it is a wide open field. it's about asking. - yeah, i mean, i wouldeven complement what, everything gary just said,i'd complement that, lucy

by saying, you also have anopportunity via these myriad social outlets and theinternet as a whole. not just to reach out and contact people but to actually prove yourself. like, if you need to show this experience that these people are seeking after, just do it. you don't need someone'spermission to do that. if you wanna work inconstruction, build something.

if you wanna work inan automotive factory, work on cars. if you wanna be a filmmaker, make videos. you now have these multitudeof options in front of you to show that you're capable. if you wanna be a writer, write something. - you know what happensin that environment? if you actually have it, not everybody has it.

but if you actually have it, you start getting intoa place very quickly that you realize, oh wait, i don't need to have a jobin the first place. (laughs) - that's right, no longer do you need therunway to prove your worth on. you don't need someone else's approval, you just do it yourself. scary and very hard to do,

it's not to be underestimatedjust how challenging that is but it doesn't mean thatthe opportunity isn't there and that opportunity wasn'tthere 10, 15 years ago. but it's uniquely there now. - we're byproducts of that game. - my entire career isproduct of that game. - i had a liquor storein new jersey and got 300 dollar camera at best buy and decided to make wine videos

because i wanted to be like emeril. - wine videos.- wine videos. india, let's move it. oh, by the way, i didn't getweird there out of nowhere. we are streaming onfacebook live right now. be interesting to see-- it's a whole differentdynamic 'cause these shows are consumed so much on facebook live which launched yesterday.

india? - [voiceover] benjamin asks, "where does confidence come from? "how do you both work on it?" - that's tough. - i'll let you go first here. - confidence, i mean-- - hold on. - [voiceover] that's awesome.

- yeah, i couldn't (laughs) - you didn't know the address? - gary, over your left shoulderis my electric skateboard. right there.- yes. - i rode that electric skateboard up here. and if there's one thing youdon't wanna do while traveling 24 miles an hour in heavytraffic through new york city, on an electric skateboardis to whip out your phone and double check an address.

- respect. - so you gotta write that down. all right, answer ben's questionabout your outrageous level how does one have enoughconfidence to ride an electronic skateboard 24miles an hour in new york city? - i have an answer that'snot really a great one for people to hear, so i'm hoping you have a better answer than i do, gary. my answer goes like this,

i'm one of four kids. there was the first born. the only daughter. and the baby. and then there's theforgotten child, casey. so in my household, itwas like fight to survive. and my confidence was like born into me out of need to just existand be noticed and be fed. now, not everyone has hadthe beautiful misfortune

that yielded the fortune of my childhood that turned me into a confident person. but i think it's verydifferent from someone who finds themselves, as anadult, in a world that sort of thrives on those who have confidence and being forced to findthat within yourself. but one shortcut i found tothat is making something. making anything. whether that's writing something,

whether it's something creative, whether it's something more pragmatic. whether that's a relationship, whether that's a friendship. if you generate somethingyou can take sort of, you take comfort in whatit is that you've just made in your yield and i thinkthat's a really great shortcut to finding confidence. - casey, answer--

give me a word associationplay really quick here. fear. - illness. - illness? - yeah, that's-- - i really didn't want you to go there. thanks for screwing up my answer. for me-- - the only thing, beingsick is the only thing

that i'm scared of. - by the way,that's really funny. actually, that's really interesting. because i was dissing a little bit and now i'm gonna put you on a pedestal. it is literally the health andwell-being of the people i-- weirdly, for me, it's the people i love is scary ass crap for me. it's a very big challenge

and we all go through it. and so, i'm with you on that. where i was going with that, is this, i am not scared to fail, by any stretch of the imagination. and it comes in the form oftruly being in this weird place where i really don't give arat's ass what anybody thinks. and again, that's wiring. how does one work on that?

what do you think i sit-- what do you think i go in my room like, "don't care what anybody thinks. don't care what anybody--" like, you don't do that. - yeah, you get made funof a lot in high school and it seems like the entireworld is falling apart because you're being picked on. - i want people to make fun of me.

- you grow up and itrealize it doesn't matter what other people think. - i do, india.- you really don't. it really doesn't. and appreciating that-- - it's like those lasttwo weeks of high school. if you can capture that feeling. - those last two weeks in high school, literally, everybody stopscaring what anybody thinks

'cause you're all going somewhere else. and so, i've always had that feeling. it's crazy how, you know, i was born with confidence,i truly believe that. i do believe, in my case, ialso have the fortunate aspects of coming from a struggleplace, in a different way. on the flip side, my mom,i was the first born. the apple of my mom's eye. and so i had massivepositive reinforcement

which then just made mefeel entitled to success. in an environment wherei was failing classes. i was 4 foot 11 when i went into my freshman year of high school. not so strong...- rough, rough. -of a situation.(laughs) but i walked out-- i mean my book bag was bigger. where's you big book bag?

- didn't bring it today,not on the skateboard, gary. - like, i literally-- my book bag was like your size. let me tell you storyabout my freshman year. ninth day of school, i'mwalking down the hallway. i'm late for a class. i have a jordache book bag that's twice the size of me. i'm walking.

it's like eight minutesafter the bell rang, i'm lost as fuck 'cause we have huge high school,i have do idea where i am. this is terrible, right. there's some dude, hanging out of class with paige parlow who was one of the hottestgirls in our school. it eight days intoschool, i know who she is. she's a sophomore, he's a senior.

i'm walking by them. he goes, "psst." i go, (beep). i go, "yeah." he goes, "the nurseryschool's over there." that's what happened to me. do you know what i went through, what went through my mind?

i said, wait till (beep)(beep) (beep) face, punk. sorry, india. that's what went through my mind. and that's just wherei've always been. (laughs) i know it was a little crude. - gary vaynerchuk, folks. (laugh) - all right, let's move on. - [india] from allen.

- india's blushing right now. - i am, but i blush all the time, so. - [gary] andrew's really blushing. - that was funny, i'm sorry. - [voiceover] allen asks, "casey, how will define ifbeme is a success or not, "if you haven't already?" - i definitely haven't already. beme which is my technology startup.

here's some context for-- - link that up drock, in the facebook post, in the youtube post. let's make sure everyone who watches-- - in fact, we'll put a linkbelow that if you click on it we'll automatically unlock beme for you and you will automaticallybe following gary. - oh.

- you like that? we're working, it's a new productwe got a new feature-- - take that (beep) (beep).(laughs) - in the history of social networks, there's maybe been, what, what would you say? how many have succeeded, eight? - seven.- seven. that is the swimming pool

that we are currently wading around in. so to call yourself a success - and i think that wedefine that as a success of like such meaningful scale, financial stability, looking like it's gonnago in the right direction. - social impact. - impact, for sure. - to me, that is a success.

and i mean it, when you cancount it on less than two hands how many companies have succeeded. it's not just catching a unicorn. it is the most, the rarest, hardest thing you could ever hope to accomplish in the space of technology. that's what we're trying to do, so have i considered it a success? not even close.

ask me in four or five years. - click the app. yeah, i mean look, to me one can argue thatit's a success right now. the amount of people that i come across who are doing other things in their career that wanna go then make a app that has the ambition towin the consumer web game is extraordinarily high.

the amount that even saw the day of light, even saw the day of lightwith well financed funding. that's repetitive. with money. with all those things going in their way, is very small. then to have that happen on top of which to have a very smart, you'rea tremendous marketer. you know, that means a lot to me.

i'm sure you define yourselfin a lot of different ways but your marketing skillsare very high, i admire them. the amount of noise andexcitement that was generated felt amazing to me, thenyou gotta back it up. so, now there's the next challenge. now's the tough part. is actually making theproduct at that level. - yeah, i mean some of the-- - tim?

are you typing a new, i'm sorry. don't do a new one. if it's done, it's done. - [voiceover] okay. - cool, all right. - we just lost our facebook feed. - no, no, okay. - but some, some of the greatest failures ever were

a gigantic pile, anaggregate of tiny successes. so i appreciate everything you just said and i really hold dear the tinysuccesses we've had thus far - 60 seconds for everybody who's watching what it is, how you describe in 60. i know that's tough but-- - what beme is, is beme is a way of sharing via video the tiny moments you experience in life

and doing it in a waythat's absolutely dynamic but doesn't interrupt the moment. and within this 60 second window i demonstrate to youexactly how that happens and it looks like this. like right now, i'm capturingvideo of this entire set. of gary's beautiful face just like that and when you hear the noise (phone beeps)

that means it's been sharedto all of my followers. that's what beme is. - you know what i love? but you'll never be able tosee what you just shared. - well, not until it's live in the network and everybody else can. and that's the whole idea. is to remove the scrutiny. it's to remove sort of,

controlling the image of yourself in life that you put out there. i'd like to say, beme is not about sharing how the world sees you. it's sharing how you see the world. - and what's interesting about that is, what's really happening in social is platforms are showing whoyou want to be to the world. we are all living in the mostpr'd version of ourselves.

we have 15 year old girls running around america right now who are massive growth hackers who understand the speedin which likes come in on an instagram photo thattook them 17 minutes to take and then they take it downwithin the first 60 seconds because they don't like thedata that's coming back as fast. - right. - and they reset.

literally, three hour dynamicsto pull off the one picture that's gonna capture the momentof the concert you went to which is pr at its finest. it's an interesting dynamic. - yeah, we're tryingto get away from that. because i think our, the ethos, the principle behindthis, our mission statement is to promote understandingby sharing perspective. and i think if you can tap intoother people's perspectives,

you get a better idea as towhat the world is around you. - when i-- i'm an investor. when i really got excited, i'm still excited for this moment, is the thought of like thefirst time i go on stage and beme to me is so exciting. like literally, peopleseeing what i get to see when i give these keynotesversus watching me

is an exciting moment for me. - do you know, and we canstop talking about beme in a second, but last night a friend of my named shon, shonduras you know him from snapchat. - yeah, yeah. - shon bemed his daughter being born. - what? (whistles)

- i mean, my wife and iwatched it this morning in bed and we were both crying. i mean it was unbelievable. it wasn't the yucky stuff and it wasn't the stuff thatyou would deem inappropriate. but it was his wife in thechair, in the bed being anxious and in the next shot he's holding his beautiful newborn baby girl. - that's cool.

- and it was such an emotional,such a real, raw thing. and that's we're hoping to accomplish. he didn't think, he just shared. - love it. - next question. - [voiceover] alex asks, "what advice would you giveto a high school student "struggling to decide what topursue as a future career?" - i've got an answer.

get busy. do something, do anything. and one of my favorite pieces of advice as to exactly what you should do, is do something you hate. like, i didn't find mypassion for entrepreneuralship and filmmaking and everythingthat i've done in my career. i didn't find that by doing it. i found that by scrubbing pots

in a really terrible seafood restaurant. because when you spend 50hours a week scrubbing pots, it's 50 hours a week you're obsessing about what you wish you were doing. sitting around playing video games in your parents' sweet house is the worst way to findyour mission in life. do something, staying busyis a really, really easy path to find something you trulywanna invest yourself in.

- i would also then say to recognize that playing video games inyour parents' sweet house is probably your outletto success in your career. i would say that yourultimate strengths and wants are the quickest gateway drug to upside once you recognize that there'ssomething to be done there. too many of you, in the world don't believe that the thingthey like doing the most has financial upside.

we've drawn a line in the sand, that the thing we like is what we do when we have time to do it like. and the other places toeither make money or get by. so many people are in the other bucket are driven by, i'm gonna go into finance 'cause that's where the money is. or i just need enough money and then i'm gonna havegood work-life balance,

i'll be on the softballteam, i'll play video games. i really believe-- i really believe that somebodywho's watching this right now who obsesses on being on sixsoft ball teams right now, literally can make 127,000dollars a year in ad revenue and live events and acouple other sponsorships and selling a couple t-shirts by literally becomingthe authority on softball in america.

- my son who is a junior in high school is spending a good piece of his summer, including right now, today at a university inconnecticut studying computer, computer science, specificallyfocused on video game design. - yeah. - just to back up video playing. - video game culture in 19-- when we were kids.

to think it was a mass industry. i mean e-sport's gonnabe bigger than baseball in this country in 20 years. e-sport's is gonna be a bigger business than major league baseballin 20, 30 years from now. i'll go 30, i'm gonna hedge a little bit. in 30 years from now. i mean, that is incredible to me. india.

- [voiceover] atiyya asks, "if you could swap outone quality of your won "for one of casey's, and viceversa, what would it be?" - mine's very easy. i don't know if you know me well enough to answer this questionbut mine's very easy. i'm a wimp when itcomes to physical stuff. i don't ride skateboards. i don't surf or ski.

i do very little risk adventure. i look at gopro's, i'm like, who gives a rat's ass? like that's not even inmy consideration set. you know, one time jumpedoff a 50 foot cliff in jamaica, i stillcan't believe i did that. because there was a lot of chicks there. stuff was like peerpressure, college stuff.

i mean, like fuck it,everybody jumped too. some like eight year old jumped, like all right (laughs). so, having a little bitof an adventurous bone would be intriguing to me. i mean look, i'm super happy the way i am but if i have to answer the question, having a little bit ofthat free spiritedness i think is really attractive to me.

- i'm gonna go really specific here, gary and that's your taste in and eye for wine. you know, i am an uneducated kid from a lower middle class house. yet, i present myself as someonewho's fairly sophisticated. but when it comes to winewhich all conversations in this world lead to wine, i couldn't tell youwhich one came from a box and which one came from gary's cellar.

and that's something i really appreciate that you treat like an art form, gary. - i have a feeling we're gonna have video maybe in a, i think in12 to 18 months from now we are gonna have todrink very high end wine while jumping out of a plane or something. we're just gonna combine this-- - i hope not in that order. - no, no, in that order.

we're gonna be really-- we may forget the parachute out. it'll be big news. we'll probably get the mostpress we've ever gotten. - that's true.- you know, we're gone. - great youtube video. - we just drank too much wine,forget to pull the cord. - lot of clicks, yeah. before we end this video.

- yes?- you're looking buff, man. - crazy right? - yeah, you're getting jacked, huh? - it's happening.- yeah, big time. - it's happening. but you, i mean look at this. give them something, give them something. give 'em a little-- - ah, you're making me shy.

it's just this is because i have to carry this big ass camera around all the time. that's the only reason whyi have the physique i have. it's to support my career. - case, the guest always getsto ask the question of the day what question? i know you're ready, you hadto pull one out the last time. don't repeat it. you were trying to recall what it was,

so i'm buying you some time. anything you'd like, fire away. - that i ask the audience? - mm-hm, and they're gonnaanswer in the comment section. - okay, how about something broad? which is, give us some generic advice for how we could be better communicators to you.

gary and i both have- [gary] i like that. this platform that we've built, but we have this big platformthat's a huge loudspeaker that we can speak to a lot of people from. what is it that wedon't talk about enough? what is that we should be sharing more of that could have a great impact? - or how?- yeah. - that stuff we hear and we appreciate.

this was great. - thanks for being on the show. - yeah, of course, any time. i'll save it for the next one. you keep asking questions, we'll keep answering them.