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the russell berrie foundation. >> this is "one on one." >> that's good acting, man. [laughter] >> ♪ i'm a fool for ya, babe ♪ >> i get that a lot. i go to atlantic city all the time. like, "are you the guy?" i go, "no, i'm not."

>> this is one you can't afford to miss. >> they thought that i wouldn't survive it, but i knew i would. >> hi. i'm steve adubato, coming to you from the tisch wnet studios right here in lincoln center. let me introduce you to one of the greatest, one

of the best sports writers in the country. he's gary myers. he's the author of new book called "coaching confidential: inside the fraternity of nfl coaches." how you doin'? >> i'm doing great. thanks for having me on. i appreciate it. >> listen, originally, you're

from queens. >> that's right. >> which made you a met fan. >> a met fan. >> now, you were just telling me before we got on the air, what else did you do out there at shea stadium? >> well, starting in junior year

or sophomore year of high school, hot dogs in the upper deck. when i got to be 18, when the drinking age was 18, i was allowed to sell beer. hundreds of met games as a vendor at shea stadium. >> love it. by the way, give everyone a sense of your

background before writing this book. you wrote some other great stuff, and people can read you on a regular basis? >> uh, "new york daily news." been doing that since 1989. before that, i worked for "the dallas morning news" covering the cowboys. this is actually

my second book. i did a book three years ago called "the catch," which was about the 1981 nfc championship game between the cowboys and the 49ers. dwight clark's famous catch. >> yes. "the catch." >> "the catch," and, uh, so that

book explored how that game changed the fortunes of two franchises and changed the lives of many of the players who played in that game. >> plus people can catch you on yes? >> yes network once a week during the football season,

"this week in football." i've been doing that since 2002, and as i mentioned to you before that, 13 years with hbo when they had "inside the nfl." >> all right, stop plugging. >> okay. >> [laughs] only kidding. i asked you to do that. hey,

listen, talking about plugging, this is good stuff. one of the things about the book that i want--by the way, you don't have to be a football fan to read this book. all of our audience on public television, this is a good book, 'cause it's about people and relationships.

talk to us about the bill parcells, bill belichick, and pete carroll connection. what the heck is that about? >> well, those were the three coaches who have worked for robert kraft, the patriots owner. so what i did to-- >> up in new england.

>> in new england with the patriots, right. a couple of years ago, i went up and had dinner with kraft with the sole focus being his relationships with three very high profile coaches, but three really diverse personalities. he inherited parcells when he

bought the patriots on 1994, and thought it was the greatest thing ever to inherit this iconic coach who had won a couple of super bowls with the giants, but he soon found out that the view of parcells up close was much different than when he was just a

patriots fan, and it didn't take long for them to have a lot of friction in their relationship. pete carroll replaced parcells when parcells went to the jets, and kraft was looking for a personality that was completely different than parcells. parcells is very

overbearing, a control freak. pete carroll one of the nicest guys in the business, but he didn't win enough, and then, uh, kraft went and hired bill belichick, who was for a long time, bill parcells' right-hand man, and in a way, kind of a compilation or a cross between

parcells and carroll is bill belichick. >> interesting. why write this book? there are so many football books, but no books about the nfl coaches' fraternity. why? >> well, i'm glad there hadn't been, because it gave me the opportunity to do it.

>> but why write the book? what caused you to say, "hey, i want to write about these guys?" >> i thought you said, why hadn't anybody done it? no, well, i mean, there's a lot-- >> i'm curious about that, too, but why did you say, "hey, i

want to do this"? >> because, you know, steve, there's been a lot of books about coaches--autobiographies, "told to" books, that kind of stuff, and those were where the coaches were more in control of the content. i really wanted to get into the personalities.

this book has nothing to do with xs and os. there's not a lot of strategy in this, or, you know, what coaches--drawing up game plans. it's more-- more about their relationship with their owners, with their quarterbacks, with their assistant coaches, with their

families. how it affected their families and these ridiculous hours these coaches work, because they're so paranoid and afraid the next guy is working till 2:00 in the morning, so he's got to work till 3:00 in the morning. >> they are paranoid.

>> oh, the coaches are very paranoid. >> paranoid about what? >> paranoid they're being outworked, which would lead to them losing the next game on sunday, which would lead to them getting fired. >> by the way, speaking about

the relationships, tony dungy and andy reid. >> right. >> talk about that connection in terms of family loss. >> well, tony dungy's son in 2005 committed suicide when he was just almost 19 years old. andy reid's sons, in 2007, both

were arrested in traffic type situations, where drugs were found, and they both wound up going to prison. unfortunately, reid's oldest son passed away this summer, um, and the coroner's report came out in october in which they said it was an accidental overdose of

heroine. but when i spoke to reid, it was prior to his son passing away, but at that point, you know, his sons were recovering, you know, drug addicts, i guess you would say, and, um, the parallel and the connection that i drew between dungy and andy reid is,

obviously, they both had problems with their children and knew how important second chances were to children, kids in trouble. and tony dungy became the mentor to michael vick just as he was getting out of prison. >> for the whole dog fighting

thing? >> the dog fighting scandal. and he became vick's mentor. when they were looking for a team that might be interested in signing vick, it became immediately apparent that a guy like andy reid, who had problems with his own children and knew

how important second chances were, would be more compassionate and more apt to look at vick and say, "you know what, this guy's a tremendous talent. he messed up big time, paid for it with two years of his career, but maybe he's worth trying to give a second chance

to." so the fact that dungy had problems with his own children, led him to become michael vick's mentor, and the fact that reid had problems with his children led him to want to accept michael vick. >> gary, why would these coaches talk to you about such personal,

human aspects of their lives and be so vulnerable when that's risky for them? >> well, i like to think, uh, i am disarming in my interview style. [laughs] i've been doing this a long time, and... >> yeah, we all like to think that, but you got them to do it.

>> i did, and, uh, it was built on prior relationships. these are coaches i've known for a long time. >> what do they trust you to do or not do? >> i think they trust me to tell the story accurately, uh, to portray it with a degree of, uh,

compassion, objectivity, uh, to present their side of the story in context, and that was all based on the fact that i had had relationships with them, and i have written columns and stories about them in the past, and they knew they can open up to me and i would do it the

right way. >> give me a couple more good stories about--that people can-- by the way, the name of the book is "coaching confidential: coaches." the author is gary myers. give me another story of one of the coaches here. >> um, joe gibbs, hall of fame

coach, won three super bowls with three different quarterbacks. just a tremendous accomplishment. but in looking back on his career. now, he sat out a bunch of years and came back and coached the redskins, 2007. >> that didn't work out so well.

>> he didn't come close to winning a super bowl, but during that four-year period in which he came back to coach washington, i think he did the best coaching job of his career in 2007. the sunday of thanksgiving weekend, his best player, safety sean taylor,

was murdered in a home invasion. taylor had been injured. the redskins allowed him to go back to his home in miami to take care of some personal business. people who broke into his house clearly didn't think he was home, because they thought he'd be with the team,

which was in tampa that weekend. and he was shot in the leg and eventually, a day or so later, he died. the first game after taylor died, the redskins lost. the day after that game, they flew as a team to miami for the funeral, and a couple of days after that, they had a

thursday night game, and they beat chicago, and they got on a tremendous run where they made the playoffs. they won their last four games, and when i evaluated the situation and thought about, you know, there's nothing in the coach's manual to say to these coaches, how

do i hold the team together when our best player has been murdered, and i have a team that's completely heartbroken because he was a very popular player in the locker room. so i spoke at length to gibbs about, you know, how he held himself together, because he is

a very religious man and was very close to his players, and how he kept his team, you know, to properly honor their fallen teammate, but also knowing they weren't gonna cancel the games, and to honor sean taylor by winning the games, and they made the playoffs that year.

>> it's funny how people measure success, and, uh, it says a lot about you that you saw that that was a way to measure success in a way that some of your colleagues may not have. it's one of the many reasons to go out and, uh, purchase and read "coaching confidential:

coaches" by gary myers, one of the best sports writers out there. listen, thank you very much. appreciate you coming in. >> thank you. >> all the best. by the way, this is gary's first interview that he's doing on the book. you picked the right place.

stay with us. we'll be right back right after this. thank you, gary. >> if you would like more information on this program or if you'd like to express an opinion, e-mail us at info@caucusnj.org, visit us online at oneonone.org, or find

us on facebook at facebook.com/steveadubatophd. >> steve hindy is the co-founder of brooklyn brewery and the author of "beer school: bottling success at the brooklyn brewery." how you doin'? >> good. very good. >> let me get this straight.

you were a journalist for the first 15 years of your professional career. >> yes. >> your partner, uh, tom potter, was a banker. >> yep. >> the journalist and the banker get together and they

say, "let's have a brewery." >> because? >> because, you know, he had always wanted to start his own business, and, uh, i was kind of antsy, having been a foreign correspondent for six years, sitting at a desk at "newsday," you know, i wanted more

excitement, so i wanted to start a brewery. seemed like a great dream. >> sorry for interrupting. you were over in saudi arabia, right? >> actually, i lived in beirut and cairo and covered wars all over the middle east.

>> where's the whole beer thing come in for you, the whole brewery thing? >> well, i drank a lot of beer as a journalist. >> so you admit that. >> yeah, i do. let's get that straight. uh, but when i was in cairo, i met american

diplomats who had been in saudi arabia for three years. no alcoholic beverages in saudi arabia under islamic law, and they were very avid home brewers. they made their own beer at home. they had done this in saudi, and they continued in cairo. so i started

drinking their home brew, and it was amazingly good. uh, and then, after almost six years in the middle east, my wife got fed up with that kind of life and said she was coming back to new york and bringing the kids, and she hoped i would join her, but if not, you know, have

a nice life. so i gave it up and came back, and went to work at "newsday," doing the foreign news for them and making beer at home, serving it to my friends and my neighbors. >> whoa, whoa, whoa. what do mean, making beer at home? >> brewing beer at home.

>> where? >> you can do it in your kitchen. you can make small batches of beer. actually, jimmy carter signed a law that enabled this in 1970...78. >> so you consider carter a great president? >> he was a wonderful president.

>> [laughs] sorry. i took you away from this. you're doing it at home, and then you're serving it to your friends, and they're saying, "hey, this is good stuff." >> it's good stuff, but, uh, you know, i started reading about these small breweries that

were starting up, mainly out on the west coast, and the history of brewing in brooklyn, and i thought brooklyn would be a great place to make one of these microbreweries, to start a microbrewery. and my neighbor tom said, "are you nuts?" you know, he had done a study--

>> tom the banker. >> he had done a study of the beer industry, and he knew that the big guys were getting bigger and the little guys were being kind of run out of business, regional breweries, and he thought it was kind of a crazy idea. but i said, "you know,

tom, we're not gonna compete with the big guys. we're gonna compete with the imports. we're gonna make specialty beers." um, and tom went to the craft brewers conference, 1986 in portland, oregon. at that time, there were only about 25 microbreweries in the whole

country, and he met a lot of people who were not in it just because they were crazy about beer, but they wanted to make money. and he came back sold on the idea. we did a business plan. we raised a $1/2 million from colleagues and friends and started the

brooklyn brewery. >> yeah, but it's a little more complicated than that. when you started to do it, some of the biggest obstacles you faced were...? >> well, our plan was to take that money and build a brewery in brooklyn. uh, but we quickly

learned that the beer business is really more about distribution. you got to have a great product, but you've got to be able to get the product to the customer. >> sort of like television. >> uh, like a lot of things, actually.

>> right. hey, we have a great show, but we have no place for people to see it. same principle. >> exactly. exactly. so we changed our plan. instead of brewing in brooklyn on day one, we brewed in upstate new york at a brewery that had a lot of

capacity. we trucked the beer down to brooklyn, and we filled our van every morning with beer, and we went out and peddled it on the streets of new york. >> when did you open up in brooklyn? >> march of 1988. >> okay, and what are we

looking at right there? >> that's the brewery today. >> describe for us how it explodes in terms of success. when do you know you--i was gonna say lightning in a bottle. when do you know you have the beer in the bottle and it's working and it's gonna be big?

'cause it's very big. by the way, describe how big. >> well, i mean, now we're among the top 10 craft breweries in the country. i mean, we'll do about $45 million in business this year, selling about 180,000 barrels of beer. that's about 2 1/2, 3 million cases

of beer. >> so no one's really having to worry about you right now. you're gonna be fine financially. >> we're gonna be fine, but you asked how long it took to feel fine. >> [laughing]

>> you know, i met a very wise man when i started the company who said, "you know, if you stick with this and really dig in and work hard and persist, in 10 years, you'll be an overnight success," and he was wrong. i think it took about 18 years.

>> so now you're the overnight success, right? >> exactly, yeah. >> people around you, family, close friends, and others... >> mm-hmm. >> how many of them were saying, "what are you doing? are you nuts?" most or a few?

>> well, you have to put it in the context of what i was doing, covering wars. my father was thrilled that i was giving up journalism and finally doing something to make some money. but, yeah, a lot of people idea, which it was, but... >> you also--your business also

has a track record of really giving back and being very community-minded, community-spirited. talk about the philanthropic part of it. >> well, you know, in the beginning, we didn't have a lot of marketing money, and i

realized new york city is a very noisy media market. and i saw import beers come into new york, spend millions of dollars in a short period of time, and get no attention really. so from the beginning, i determined that our marketing money would be spent in supporting local

arts organizations, not for profits, you know, mainly donating beer to them for their events and getting our product into people's hands, and that's worked out great, and we've really stuck with that over the years, so we support a number of arts organizations and charities

to this day, and that's our main marketing dollars. >> so one of the keys to "beer school" by steve hindy and tom potter, founders of the brooklyn brewery, is that you, too, if you work hard, and you play your cards right, after 18 years, can be an

overnight success. is that the underlying message here? >> that's about it. i mean, it really takes a lot of persistence, and, you know, you really got to believe in what you're doing, and failure is not an option, basically. we made it work.

>> i love it. listen, this is a book not just about beer, but about success and leadership and hard work and persistence, and it's very inspirational. i wish you nothing but the best, steve. >> thank you very much. >> thanks for giving back to

the community. >> cheers. thank you. >> this is "one on one" here at lincoln center. stay with us. we'll be right back. thank you. >> ♪ ooh ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh ooh ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh

alone that's all i did know stretched across my bed solo rogering my own ground control in my head ♪ >> boy, that sheri miller can sing. that was sheri--sheri miller, you see her right there.

singer/songwriter/musician. how you doin'? >> i'm great. >> that was your music video called...? >> "spoons." >> and your newest one out is...? >> "i could love you still."

i like that. where'd you come up with that title? >> um, i'm not sure. >> really? >> i wrote the song really fast, just kind of was one of those things that happen where it's, you know--you're not sure where it came from.

>> the word is about you that you knew when you were about 7ish that this was what you wanted to do. is that true? you wanted to sing, you wanted to perform, you wanted to write. >> is that what i'm-- let me see that songbook. >> well, when i was about 7

or 8 years old, i started writing songs on the piano. i drove my mother completely crazy. >> zoom on on this, guys. go ahead, as you're talking about it. go ahead. this is your songbook. >> my songbook. i would write

lyrics, you know, and melodies, and i didn't know how to notate music, so i would use this kind of hieroglyphic dot system, and i was writing songs, you know, about love, about lost tribes and buffaloes and the universe and all kinds of things, and, uh, it was just

like an instinct or a calling, you know, and you just kind of do it. you don't question it, you know. >> and the other thing that-- that i heard about that you-- boy, you back this whole story up--was that you kept, apparently, the idea of a casio

keyboard, you know, thing, right? thingy. that you wanted one, and what is this that you brought in? is this it? this isn't the first. >> this is it. >> this is not the first-- as i read about your biography, i hear about the casio, and

that's it. >> this is the keyboard. >> guys, can we get a shot of this? terry, how can we do this? could you hold it up? it's missing a key, but-- >> yes, it's definitely-- >> i'm so afraid of dropping this. guys, take the shot.

tell us the significance of this casio. >> well, um, when i was in college, i was writing songs, secretly albeit in my bedroom, and i was studying jazz piano, which was really far away from where i was living, so i had to walk really far to get there,

and i was just not really writing enough, and i wasn't really connected and committing enough to writing songs, so i started thinking, i had this thought in my head, what if i got a little, used casio keyboard that i could afford and had it in my room, and i

could write songs every day and put my energy there? so i started dreaming at night over a period of months about a casio keyboard, and one saturday morning--or it was a sunday morning, on a saturday night, i had this very vivid dream about this casio keyboard, and

i woke up kind of groggy in a kind of, you know, half-awake, half-asleep kind of surrealist state, and i made this decision. i had to go to the library. i was living in philadelphia, so i could have walked down walnut street, which would have been a very fast, direct,

straight path, or i could have walked down this kind of winding, beautiful, scenic other path that would have taken me to the library. it just would have been a lot longer. it was a kind of a winding road. so i made a decision kind of instinctively. i was

sort of--i felt like i was sort of floating that day, and i just decided to take the longer alternate route, and they were having a church sale that one day as i walked past on that winding road, and i saw the exact keyboard that i had been dreaming of for months.

>> there it is. >> and i asked the lady--i was sort of, like, freaked out, and i was like, "oh, my god! you don't understand! i've been dreaming about this keyboard! you don't get it!" >> and she thinks your nuts. >> and she thought i was

totally nuts, and she's like, "okay, it's a keyboard, yeah, you know." and i asked her how much is it? and she said $20. and i said, "can i just try it out to make sure it works?" and she gave me this nintendo charger, and it did work, and then i ran to an atm machine,

and it was $20, and i got it, and that day, that moment when i bought that casio keyboard, i never stopped writing songs, and something in me, in--if you want to call it a spirit or soul, whatever you want to call it, that one day committed to being a songwriter, a

musician, and an artist, and i never made a choice, thank goodness, because, you know, it's a big decision to make, but i just kind of felt like i literally chose a path that day, and i was pushed gently into that path, and i've never looked back.

>> i don't want to drop that. you got me nervous right now after telling that story. um, in the limited time we have, i want to just do this. minute left, and ask you this. people can find your music where? >> where? uh, itunes, amazon, my website.

>> social media really matters, >> it does. >> why? tell us why in your career. why's social media so important? >> i think it's all about connection. i think in all walks of life, doesn't matter what you do, what your passion is,

i think people want connection with something--other people, with themselves, with families, communities, with--if you believe in a higher power, or whatever you believe in, the people want to connect, and they want to feel like there's someone else out there that

gets them and understands them and hears them and sees them, you know, and that they're heard and seen. so the social media is just about connecting. >> speaking of connecting, next time you come in, would you mind singing for us? >> i would love to.

>> i'm gonna ask you to come back to our lincoln center studio and sing next time. sheri miller, you connected with us. thank you very much. >> oh, thank you so much. >> we appreciate it. >> i appreciate it, too. >> "one on one with steve

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